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Anthony Morris III... Did he really serve in Vietnam? Something doesn't quite add up...

by Calebs Airplane in

born in 1950, he apparently became a regular pioneer in 1971.. but wait.... let's just say that he enlisted (or was drafted) in 1968 at age 18.... depending on the branch of service, he would have to complete anywhere from 2 to 4 years of service.

yes, duty in hot combat zones was usually limited to 6-months at a time but you still had to serve a total of 2 to 4 years depending on the branch of service.

assuming he only served 2 years, he would have been 20 years old and discharged by 1970.... how did he get witnessed to, complete a book study, become an unbaptized publisher, get baptized and then become a regular pioneer in less than year???.

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LOL outlaw thanks for the great laugh.

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New YouTube video: Candace Conti tells her story

by cedars in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfhsewwd3wa.

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New YouTube video - Anthony Morris III in Vietnam

by cedars in

in this latest video instalment, anthony relates his horrifying experience during the bloody conflict in vietnam.

as a new recruit, he is forced to endure the terrible inconvenience of having his much-needed sleep interrupted by enemy mortar explosions, leading him to make a brave decision.... .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nxodelibbs.

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I just had my husband who truly did server in Vietnam listen to this. He was disgusted. My husband saw the real war. He squad was over run and many died. It is amazing that he even survived. He truly just does not talk about it a lot. My husband was an elder for 32 years and he said he would never have given a talk using any of his war experiences, it is just not proper he feels.

My husband said where Anthony was in Vietnam it was in a base camp which was one of the safest places to be if you were in Vietnam and that the bunker would have been a very safe place to be instead of just laying in a bed, and that Tony was crazy to have not listened to direction to get the the bunker and it would not have been a coffin like he claimed but it would have been sand baged and if it was hit probley nothing would have happened to those in the bunker. Also you have to remember Tony was just a kid probably only 19 to 20 years old and he is telling those who have been in country that they are stupid to be sitting in a bunker. How truly arrogant when you think of it.

I have heard that there is a talk of Tony's where he goes off on how he saw death in Vietnam and because of that when Jehovah brings this world to an end he will be ready, to me the guy is just pure sick.

My dad served in the Korean war and he never, never talked about it only just once when I was a kid and he started to cry, I as about nine years old at the time it was the first time I had ever seen my dad cry. My husband hardly talks about the war and when he does it is never like Tony just did.

According to the 06 WT Tony started to pioneer in 1971, I am not sure what year he was born in, if he is my husband age he was really young when he was Vietnam, my husband was 19 when he was drafted. To me Tony just sound like a person who brags. There is an elder in the hall I went to who was always talking about being in the Korean war. The way he sounded it was like he had seen true fighting, etc. One day out in service I started to ask him direct question about the war and turns out he never was in country. He was going to be shipped out and was on the boat to go over seas but he never made it either the war ended or something happened. I was so put off by him after that. But it made sense as he never acted like my dad did about the war he was always so flip and light about it.

Those who have truly served in the war do not talk like that elder did or Tony about it. They usually do not even talk about it at all. My husband said he lost some really good friends in the war and it still haunts him till this day that he served and they did not.

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Why do 7 million + people keep excusing ,rationalising , justifying ,failed expectations of prophecy`s these past 130 + years of Jehovah`s Witnesses non events

by smiddy in

how many times can you excuse failed expectations.

how many times can you justify altering interpretations of scripture.

how many times can you rationalise "new light".

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I truly wish I knew It is so frustrating living with someone who gives their life it it.

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About Anonymous they are working on things as we speak!

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soldier 77 just posted this about two hours ago but i think his post got lost is the great debate and straw mans that another posters was throwing around.. anyway i hope soldier 77 does not mind if i make a thread from his insight.

soldier 77 "this seems to have missed in the tangent argument going on: http://pastebin.com/3nitctlf.

anonymous are needing some more people on the inside to help.

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Rethinking my post the CO was asking me to break the law because I knew that these guys were child molesters, so being I had that knowledge I would be breaking the law. Not the child molester but I would if we called at a home with children or if children were in my car group and the child molester were to be alone with the kids in the car. I was not allowed to tell anyone of what I knew with threat of being DF'ed so the other adult in the car would not know, only myself and if the other adult wanted to leave the child molester with kids alone while her and I were at a door what could I do to stop it with out telling her which I could not do with out being DF'ed?

It puts the one in the know between a rock and a hard place.

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About Anonymous they are working on things as we speak!

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soldier 77 just posted this about two hours ago but i think his post got lost is the great debate and straw mans that another posters was throwing around.. anyway i hope soldier 77 does not mind if i make a thread from his insight.

soldier 77 "this seems to have missed in the tangent argument going on: http://pastebin.com/3nitctlf.

anonymous are needing some more people on the inside to help.

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KS

I have notified the police, that is how I got some of the public records. The police are well aware that JW's send their pedophiles out. It is not against the law where I live for child molesters to go door to door. I was totally blown away when I heard that. I was sure that when I told them they would as you say "arrest them in the act," but unfortunately that is not the case.

What is against the law is for a person to allow a pedophile to hold and interact with children. Like the elders allowing the pedophiles to take care of kids during the meetings knowing that they are child molesters. It sounds backwards to me but that is how it has been explained to me by the police.

So that being the case if an elder takes a known child molester to someone's home and that child molester goes back to harm the child the person who took the molester they could be held responsible. Note the key would could. It may not happen but the elders and whoever the elders deem spiritually mature are putting themselves in the line to be libel just like what happened in the Candace Canti case. It is like playing Russian roulette.

144001 I did not mean to get so upset with you and I understand that you are trying to warn people to not do something stupid with Anonymous and get themselves in trouble. I totally understand that.

It is just that I was an elder's wife and I had no say in putting pedophiles in my car or for that matter having to work with them door to door. I was told by a CO to just get over myself. That I needed to get my feelings under control toward the pedophiles. The CO told me a child molester was no different than a former drug dealer or prostitute that came into the truth, no one needs to know of their past. The CO told me I was the one with the problem. When I told the CO that 90 to 95 percent of child molesters reoffend he told me that was worldly wisdom. When I asked why these child molesters were so into the kids in the hall again I was told I was the one with the problem and I needed to get a handle on my feelings. When I told the CO to read the Life Stories of Jehovah's Witnesses in the bound volumes he just looked blankly at me. I told him as he clearly knew that many of the life stories talk about JW's being drug dealers, bank robbers, etc but none of the life stories ever say I was a former child molester. Why not? The CO never answered me, I wonder why?

Anonymous has never demanded of me to do anything that I feel is illegal like the CO did. Grated KS it is not against the law but it goes against my conscience. As a side note no child molester did go out in service in my car as I still threw a fit and my husband was deleted as an elder because I was not in submission enough.

But the fact is that a Candace Canti could come up in the hall I went too and who is going to pay for the legal fees of the elders who let the child molesters go door to door and be around then new Candance in the hall?

I understand 144001 where you are coming from but I still feel so frustrated by how I was trying to be forced by the religion to go against my principles and to put myself in line to be sued by a child in 20 years when they get to be the age of Candance.

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About Anonymous they are working on things as we speak!

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soldier 77 just posted this about two hours ago but i think his post got lost is the great debate and straw mans that another posters was throwing around.. anyway i hope soldier 77 does not mind if i make a thread from his insight.

soldier 77 "this seems to have missed in the tangent argument going on: http://pastebin.com/3nitctlf.

anonymous are needing some more people on the inside to help.

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144001

I will totally own my words. You are trying to scare people, no one that I know of condones Anonymous breaking the law. But no one should condone the religion of Jehovah Witlessness breaking the law either. I know two wrongs to do not equal a right but everyone is so frustrated that in the Religion of Jehovah's Witnesses they are clearly breaking the law by allowing child molesters to interact in secrecy. This is clear by the huge verdict that was given to Candace Canti.

We do not know who you are sitting behind your computer, you could be an elder, a CO, DO or for that matter SST from Bethel.

What everyone does know is that men who have raped kids, who have made kids do disgusting acts on them as one of the men in my hall did to children. These men should not be allowed to interact with kids period. To send these kind of people door to door is insane. To be told by a CO that I had no chose in the matter and that I had to break the law is insane.

I am not just talking about Pennsylvania law I am talking about the laws in most states, most states are a mandatory reporting state. So why do the elders go to a pay phone???

Look at what happened to Monsignor Lynn yesterday in the news, that is not Pennsylvania.

I am not supporting breaking the law with Anonymous and if that is what they are doing then I do not support that but I do support informing and getting the word out the Jehovah's Witnesses are clearing breaking the law.

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Child Abuse Telememo

by Bangalore in

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btt very powerful stuff

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About Anonymous they are working on things as we speak!

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soldier 77 just posted this about two hours ago but i think his post got lost is the great debate and straw mans that another posters was throwing around.. anyway i hope soldier 77 does not mind if i make a thread from his insight.

soldier 77 "this seems to have missed in the tangent argument going on: http://pastebin.com/3nitctlf.

anonymous are needing some more people on the inside to help.

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Yes LV101 they defiantly go door to door. I have begged the elders not to send them door to door, then I have talked to the CO's the DO and begged them not to send them door to door. Then I wrote to Bethel, first the writing department then, I was turned over to the service department. In fact one of the guys I was writing to was the same one who wrote to the elders involved with Candace Conti. They will not give you their names when you write or call Bethel they will only give you letters. The guy I was speaking to was SST the same as Candace Conti.

Mind blown is totally right "if the WT is assisting/encouraging them to go door to door as well as being on the same street as children, they are guilty of breaking the law."

144001 has his own agenda trying to scare everyone by telling us we could all be fined and maybe even thrown in jail if we side with Anonymous.
But like I posted it is also against the law to go door to door with child molesters and I begged a CO not to send me with child molesters and the CO told me to my face I needed to get a handle on my feelings toward child molesters. That the one pedophile I was talking about even though he was on Meghan's list he still had a right to go out in field service and if he showed up to meet for service and being that my husband was an elder he would go out in service in MY CAR. I had no say in the matter.

So as 144001 is saying we could be arrested or fined by supporting Anonymous but we can also be arrested or fined by not doing anything as we can see what happened with Penn State and Joe Paterno.

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About Anonymous they are working on things as we speak!

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soldier 77 just posted this about two hours ago but i think his post got lost is the great debate and straw mans that another posters was throwing around.. anyway i hope soldier 77 does not mind if i make a thread from his insight.

soldier 77 "this seems to have missed in the tangent argument going on: http://pastebin.com/3nitctlf.

anonymous are needing some more people on the inside to help.

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How can there be a question such as number 9 on their the WT's Child Abuse Telememo that says how many elders felt that the victim was somewhat at fault or a willingly participated in the acts?

How can there ever be a Telemomo in the first place?

I know the hall I was attending and only reason I stopped attending was because of the child molesters. It was what woke me up to this not being the "truth" in any way the way the child molesters were being handled.

OK so Anonymous and their activities are as you say 14401 are criminal. But so is allowing child molesters, pedophiles to be around and hold and take care of kids in front of the hole congregation and not do a dam thing about it. I know in the hall I went two there were three very strong elders, one was the CoBE, his son-in-law and a tax attorney elder. These three elders wanted the pedophiles to be able to hold kids in the hall. Some of the other elders felt it was wrong but did not know how to buck the three strong elders. So they went with the flow.

How is that any different then Joe Paterno? So what you are saying is stay away from Anonymous but what do? Do you do sit by and let kids get raped? It is kind of like you are damned if you do and damned if you don't.

I talked to an attorney and he told me that knowing what I do and that is that the WT does send child molesters men who have raped children door to door and since I know that for a fact that if a child molester was to go back to a door and molest a kid after field service being I was the one to take him to that door I could like Joe Paterno be libel. Look how much Penn Sate lost.

It is truly scary, it reminds me of the Scripture that JW's love to spout off in Rev 18: 4, 5 ("And I heard another voice out of heaven say: "Get out of her, my people, if YOU do not want to share with her in her sins, and if YOU do not want to receive part of her plagues. 5 For her sins have massed together clear up to heaven, and God has called her acts of injustice to mind.")

I am not saying that I support Anonymous to do anything criminal or that I want to or as you said "criminal liability based on a conspiracy allegation."

But I do not want to support pedophiles going door to door also. And being that many of the child molesters are not reported as the Child Abuse Telememo says they may not be reported if it is non reporting state. So you will not know even checking the Meghan's list if the JW you are working with door to door it a child molester. Yet you are libel because you know that the person could be.

I guess everyone just needs to get of of HER the WT if we do not want to share in her sins.

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